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Jagermiester
December 26th, 2006, 10:44 AM
Well i picked up a sweet little 84 s10 last month for 1500.

2.8v6 Carbed
T5
207c

Dana 30 4.10's bulletproof steering spring under
Stock 7.5" 10 bolt rear 4.10s spring over

33x12.5x15 on 15x10 polished wheels

OBA
I will post pics later

After beating on it this weekend I went out sunday morning and noticed that the front tires were leaning wat inward. Upon further investigation I realized I bent my front 30 pretty bad. This was wonderful. I needed an excuse to spend some money to make it better. 4.10's, 33's, a nd a tired 2.8 dont make a good mix. So here is what is going in by the end of Jan. I am picking up a 9" and LP44 this weekend. I know noone likes lp's but It is basically free so that will do for now. I ordered a set of 5.38's today for the front and rear as well as a mini spool for the rear (this is planned only to be temporary but will probably stay unless it breaks. I am also looking for a set of 36" iroks or something similar for now it will get 31" boggers because that is what I have. I will keep you all up to date on it and let you know how it goes. As well as some before during an dafter pics. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

As for shocks I am presently undecided but amlooking into possibly some blistien 5150's I am also considering a lock rite for the front at a later date or possibly a mini spool for it also.

kairo
December 26th, 2006, 10:56 AM
I will definately be interested in pics when you have them, as I have one of those mini-trucks myself

Jagermiester
December 30th, 2006, 09:52 AM
After a gruesome wheeling trip. front axle bent , ripped of stabalizer and both front shocks. THis is the reason for the new axles and a few other changes.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid221/pd1421d728384811ea7b7592b35831be9/eb5ef5ac.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid221/p0e9e16e737ebacdb480a85d7c63d114f/eb5ef79c.jpg


bent front axle
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid221/p509840ed52e8d74f2dd5f0eed0946e5f/eb5ef7a1.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid221/p8c805fd4300346d7f9fa7b675a5f5fa4/eb5ef79d.jpg

BigNorm
January 1st, 2007, 01:28 PM
Are you sure it's a bent axle and not some busted ball joints? Although the front leafs do look like they are leaning towards the passenger side. I'd relocate the rear shocks up higher before I invested the cash on Billstiens. Move those front hangers back a little and get some longer shackles. You'll get alot more droop. I like how the spring under looks. It will save you alot of wheel hop. I like how it looks. You can't complain about 33's on a small rig right off the get go. :thumbsup:

Jagermiester
January 2nd, 2007, 02:33 PM
Rear shocks are going higher on the 9" that is going in.

I am sure the axle is bent. In person you can deffinetely tell. The ball joints and bearing assemblies are fine. I am getting longer more heavy duty shackles in the rear and the missing link wshackles in the front. I do know I deffinetely need to change the front shock setup. Will be looking for more ideas as the build continues. Taking the front axle down to day to remove all the old mounts and weld on the new as well as my 5.38's for the front should be here in the next 2 days.

BigNorm
January 2nd, 2007, 06:32 PM
Sounds like a great plan. Post pics as you progress in your project. :thumbsup:

Jagermiester
January 5th, 2007, 06:39 AM
Front axle was stripped of all old brackets and crap (and there was alot). Front 5.38's arrived today. New carrier (open for now) will be here on monday. Axle should be mocked up theis weekend gears installed by wednesday and in for good hopefully by next weekend (depemnding on if I have to go out of town). 9" gears will be here on monday as well. Will be picking up my 9" and new outer for my front 44 this weekend. Should be a good weekend.

Jagermiester
January 9th, 2007, 02:34 PM
Front and rear 5.38s are in. New d44 carrier and rebuild kit are in. Spool for rear is in. Going to reno today or tommorrow to pick up rebuild kit for 9" from summit. Got 57" springs for rear. And will put the old rears in the front (since the old fronts which were rears got trashed on the last wheeling trip). Am picking up a set of 35" mtr's for now as well as hoping to get a new set of 57"s for the front. Gearing and install will start this weekend.

renojeepster
January 9th, 2007, 06:22 PM
Make sure to run some good shocks, and some good bumpstops, so the next time your airing that thing out you dont turn your axle into a pretzel:gapteeth:

Jagermiester
January 10th, 2007, 06:16 AM
That is the game plan. I am going to be running blistien 5150's (eventually) and possibly hydraulic bumps but probably just some nice WELL placed polyurethane bumps.


I picked up my temp tires today. 35x12.5x15 mtr's. About 40 to 50% tread. Those will be better than trying to run my 31x12.5x15 boggers.

Jagermiester
January 13th, 2007, 06:41 AM
ring gear in the 9". Had to dismantle the carrier (which was a posi carrier) that was fun. The stupid screws holding the two halves together to compress the springs and clutches were hard to get out but finally we got them. Posi is still in great condition if someone wants it. Mini spool went in and new pinion bearing was pressed on. Now today after work we just have to get the right shimming in to set my pinion depth and the check my pattern. Then we start on the 44. Hopefully when finish both today. As well as mtrs mounted.

Jagermiester
January 14th, 2007, 08:19 AM
Rear axle is out as well as the factory 54's. 57's are in the rear but i put the loner end towards the rear of the truck to keep my axle in the same place for now. Will switch the springs around and move the axle back after a while. Both axles have all bracketry removed and are ready for the new spring mounts. 9" is just about done so we can start the 44 soon. hope to have these sitting underneath the truck by the end of tommorrow.

Jagermiester
January 16th, 2007, 06:25 AM
Yesterday the 9" went in and the mounts got tacked on. Then we pulled it out and welded the mounts on solid. Will be putting underneath for good either today or tommorrow. Still need shocks and will have to get my driveline shortened but no big deal. It sits about 4 or 5" taller with the 57's and 35's. I mounted the short side of the spring foward which put the axle about 3/4" foward of the center of the fender. Which is perfect because when it stuffs in the fender it goes backwards to perfect centerline due to the nature of the shackles. Also I didnt run the overloads and the suspension is so soft that if I stand on the hitch (150 lbs) the fender clearence drops an inch. Well that is it for now. The 44 is completely regeared and assembled minus the outers and axles (makkes it easier to carry) Will be installing it this weekend and hopefully the steering and brakes work out and I will be driving it by sunday.

BigNorm
January 16th, 2007, 07:57 AM
You are cruising right along man. Pics Pics Pics! :)

Jagermiester
January 17th, 2007, 06:37 AM
Sorry about no pics. I have them I am just working 530 am to 730 pm then coming home and working on this for an hour or two hitting the gym with the g/f and then off to bed so not much time to upload.

The rear end is in and done. I will take care of the driveline and possibly shocks this weekend. The dana 30 is out as well as the old bent springs. Dana 44 is sitting underneath there and should get the mounts tacked and welded today after work. It is about 41 degrees outside when I get home so this is tough to do but I want to run bolivia in 2 and a half weeks so I need to get it done.

Question. I am pulling out a set of 54's (factory s10 rears) with an add a leaf that are spring under. I am replacing them with another set of 54's (for now) minus the add a leaf and now spring over. Will taking out the add a leafs make them more prone to warping? Or should they be fine? I am planning 57's upfront by the summertime so its not that big of a deal. I will also adjust heigth via shackles and zero rates in the front versus the rear.

BigNorm
January 17th, 2007, 06:20 PM
dunno. I've been running my rear ford leafs up front for about a year with no overload leaf and it still seems fine. I am using a F350 main leaf though with the bronco pack underneath it minus the overload. It's kind of mix and match and see what works IMO. I have some 2.5" wide rear main leafs off of a newer F150 if you think you can use them. I want to keep the rest of the pack though in case I want to add another eventually. I can't keep my 44" tire dreams at bay. lol.

Jagermiester
January 17th, 2007, 08:39 PM
Might be able to use them how long are they? I ran 57's in the front of my fullsize 90 jimmy with an overload and 63's in the rear with an overload and it was awesome.

Jagermiester
January 17th, 2007, 08:40 PM
Well the front axle is all ready to go in and under the truck with the new springs. I am just trying to figure out what kind of caster I am going to be running. If i go with 0* I get a decent driveline angle. I am being told it is recomended 6* to 8* though. With those my driveline angle goes to crap. I know you are supposed to set it by caster and not driveline since caster affects your return to center, but I am debating running hydroassist any way to help my little PS box turn the 37's especially when they are aired down. I have also read that the ram on a hydro assist vehiicle pretty much negates the return to center anyway therefore making a 0* caster seem like it will be ok. On pirate4x4 guys say they track straight with 0* to 2* and that would just mean I would have to assist the hydro assist in the return to center part. No big deal. How does this sound to you guys? Is any one running hydro assist on a dtreet driven rig?

Also it is looking like I will have to run a z link for a draglink for a little while until I can get hysteer arms. Is anyone running one of these on a street rig. I hate them and dont want to but will need to for a bit.

Also with the rear springs up front with no add a leaf the springs sit almost flat with the weight of the truck on them hope this will be tall enough.

Jagermiester
January 18th, 2007, 06:35 AM
I did not know how hard it was going to be to cut the c's off of the 44 b/c this I have never done. I guess that is going to be the next step then and this I didnt want to do.

As for the steering I dont want to run a z link at all I meant a "bent" draglink not a z link just lie a 10* bend at the bottom and the top, and I know just how horrible it is and after sleeping on it last night I deffinetely am not going to do it. More money to spend I guess. I did think of this before hand I was just hoping it would work better than it did.

Jagermiester
March 5th, 2007, 09:15 AM
Well I finally took her out this weekend. Didnt get any pics because the hydraulic line for my clutch blew. I will be fixing it this week and going out this weekend. I got a few pics though so I will post them up as soon as I can. I still have to do shocks, and build a new draglink.

Jagermiester
March 6th, 2007, 06:18 AM
Here is a few camera phone pics. Will get better ones this weekend. The suspension is far from maxed out. I just couldnt find a taller wall. Those are 35's. I am looking at 37s as soonas those wear out.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p2590f1b4734e84ff3f255a344a4aece0/ea6aafd7.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p654a42c523e2a2b955b1aafe0dae8c9e/ea6aafbd.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p6f521eede3ac0b62777856eb7b18a02b/ea6aaf95.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p1cf88b3608709791d25cc93f3420f493/ea6aaf48.jpg

BigNorm
March 6th, 2007, 06:36 AM
NICE!

renojeepster
March 6th, 2007, 02:28 PM
Lookin good!

Sierra Valley
March 6th, 2007, 02:37 PM
Nice looking flex, you gonna join us on some trail runs soon?

Jagermiester
March 6th, 2007, 06:15 PM
I hope to join you guys on some trails soon. I need to find a taller wall so I can see how far it will flex. The springs had barelly even started to flex.

Jagermiester
March 7th, 2007, 09:33 AM
more pics from that same day. Still need a taller wall


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pdb467a4d5f16bf0378a2958cd25b606d/ea669319.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p9334eb8ae990a5367a5a27a126addf89/ea669347.jpg

jtr
March 7th, 2007, 12:15 PM
more pics from that same day. Still need a taller wall


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pdb467a4d5f16bf0378a2958cd25b606d/ea669319.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p9334eb8ae990a5367a5a27a126addf89/ea669347.jpg

That thing is SICk Dude. Lets go to the moon dunes this week. :gapteeth:

Jagermiester
March 7th, 2007, 12:29 PM
Straight up nucka I am der for that shiznit

Triple L R

deadandcompany
March 7th, 2007, 04:16 PM
Still need a taller wall]

At least have your poser shots on some rocks:thumbsup:

MIGHTYRAM97
March 7th, 2007, 08:58 PM
At least have your poser shots on some rocks:thumbsup:

It is on some rocks...(underneath is a series of small rocks,) (sand and gravel mix with oil, I.E. pavement) and the wall, well thats a man made rock (concrete Barrier)...:nervous: :thumbsup:

jtr
March 8th, 2007, 05:44 AM
moon dunes should flex it out like crazy, I will try to remember my camera this time. Get that clutch line fixed yet?

Jagermiester
March 8th, 2007, 06:10 AM
I made it yesterday (no one sells it and no time to hit up pick and pull, so I used a brakeline and the appropriate fittings) I should be able to install it today. Still have to figure out my brake issue but that shouldnt stop me from going out to the moondunes.

Mighty Ram makes a good point those are a type of rock. i will shoot for a less modified rock next time.

deadandcompany
March 8th, 2007, 06:47 AM
going out to the moondunes.

Moonrocks?? This Saturday??

Jagermiester
March 8th, 2007, 07:06 AM
No moondunes. It is local here in fallon. Here are some pictures from about 3 years ago (last time I was out there). It is a good place to go do flex tests. I have to figure out what to do with shocks.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p513c560cf21559dba94e691edf90297e/ea645e60.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pddde0548a89d9d0d089737d75710cbb0/ea645dee.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p0a1d44085c41377fa7c93475efa0ef11/ea645de8.jpg

Jagermiester
March 24th, 2007, 06:21 PM
here are some pics from last weekend.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pfea35a7bfb75437772687c1d737c27c2/ea3a7c87.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p6098567359992c6ac2d7805421285fca/ea3a7c8a.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pf60811770f8b15f464d910fff61e1bd4/ea3a7c89.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p18ebe8e94ceb6c943a2405e760b409fd/ea3a7c88.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p7fe31aceecfef3441690bd4b4fcafdbd/ea3a7c58.jpg



And a update. It is off the road again. Finally got all the measurements for shocks so they have been ordered. 2.8, t5, and 207c have been removed. (free to anyone who wants or needs). tbi 4.3,th400, and 241 are going in next weekend. Also changing the front brakes to centerdrop so as to eliminate them being a potential problem for limiting. Swapped in a halfton chevy mastercylinder. Rear disc are installed just waiting on new brackets from diy to weld on for the calipers. Hope to be up and running in about two weeks. (and now I go to pray)

renojeepster
March 24th, 2007, 07:54 PM
Allright! Keep up the good work.

BigNorm
March 24th, 2007, 08:19 PM
Looks cool man. That last pic of the FS is one of the reasons I cut my fenders out.

Jagermiester
March 26th, 2007, 11:58 AM
Hopefully will be putting the new motor, trans, and tcase in on saturday. Also awaiting my disc brake brackets from diy.

Jagermiester
March 28th, 2007, 11:25 AM
Well the jimmy is getting 39.5x18x15 boggers for a while. I am going to run them until I find someone who wants to trade. I want a set of 39 or taller tires that are skinnier. between 11" and 14". Until then I will run these and pray that being lite and not having massive power will keeo me from breaking the 44.