Death Valley in November?

[Air Sierra]

I'm thinking about making a trip to Death Valley in November. Has anybody else been down there in November?

Does anybody want to go?

[XXXXXXX]

I've been down there in the spring. Still have the GPS info. Great trip.

[nevadayj]

Been to Dumont in January, does that count? I'll be going back this Jan, too if anyone wants to do some duning:D

[Air Sierra]

I've been down there in the spring. Still have the GPS info. Great trip.

We made a trip down there in the spring too. the info is on here on past trips. Great Time! it snowed on us one day then was mid 80's the next day...lol..

[Air Sierra]

Been to Dumont in January, does that count? I'll be going back this Jan, too if anyone wants to do some duning:D

sure I will give you that other gun for a down payment on that Banshee and a monthly payment on the rest...:D

[Air Sierra]

here are a couple photos from the last time I went..

[stlthvx]

I don't know about November, but it was like this last month:

http://www.nofuture.com/lj/08-31-08/03.jpg

I would like to go back when the weather is milder...:P

[Dirty Harry]

I have been down for Thanksgiving before. I have friends from San Jose that go down there every year for Thanksgiving Chris, the weather is usually pretty mild. I can put you in touch with them if you want, they know the area really well.

[Vic R]

We are going to be there Thanksgiving until the following Monday. Plan to tow the wranger down behind the truck and camper, and stay at furnace creek campground.

We'll probably do some of the trails in the park - they seem pretty well suited for a stock rig. Any recommendations or ones to stay away from?

-Vic

[Air Sierra]

We are going to be there Thanksgiving until the following Monday. Plan to tow the wranger down behind the truck and camper, and stay at furnace creek campground.

We'll probably do some of the trails in the park - they seem pretty well suited for a stock rig. Any recommendations or ones to stay away from?

-Vic
we were planning to stay at the same place same time....lol

make sure you wheel Titus Canyon

[Dirty Harry]

We'll probably do some of the trails in the park - they seem pretty well suited for a stock rig. Any recommendations or ones to stay away from?


Titus Canyon is my favorite. The Racetrack, Ubehebe Crater, and Lippincott Mine Trail are great also.

[Air Sierra]

We plan on camping kind of by the race track after Scottys Castle on the way down to test out my trailer with a tent on it. I'm drivng the jeep down with trailer in tow.

[Suckerpunch]

dont have to ask me twice. sign me up..

[LoPo]

Myself, RobV/DrvOverIt, and my buddies from So Cal ran it last Oct. It was chilly!

http://www.travsite.com/offroad/DeathValley/2007/index.html

http://www.travsite.com/offroad/DeathValley/2007/thumbs/Death-Valley-0059.jpg

I was looking at running it again this Nov, but work is just too crazy. Have fun if you make it.

[fuel80]

I will have to talk to the commander and cheif. I want to hit this up.

[stlthvx]

We camped at Mahogany Flat, really super nice spot, but it's at elevation and it might be a tad on the brisk side this time of year...

[Air Sierra]

So if I can set the date who's interested in going? We would camp half way through Death Valley and maybe stay a night or two at one of the camp ground at Furnace creek. Maybe a 4-6 day trip??????? Input?????????

[Philistine]

I'm definetly intrested and could proably convince my brother too, but Thanksgiving weekend is out. I work retail and he works at a casino so we have to work the holidays. The weekend before (either the 14th or 21st) could work out for us. 4 days of wheeling and camping would be good.

[Air Sierra]

I'm definetly intrested and could proably convince my brother too, but Thanksgiving weekend is out. I work retail and he works at a casino so we have to work the holidays. The weekend before (either the 14th or 21st) could work out for us. 4 days of wheeling and camping would be good.

OK I'm waiting for my wife to figure out whats going on with thanksgiving this year..I'm up for Death Valley

[jonster]

Echo Canyon is also a nice trail in DV. Here is a shot of the "waterfall"
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h63/jonstertj/DeathValleyMarch2007096A.jpg

[rusty_tlc]

We were there last year and stayed at the Panamint Springs Hotel. Pretty nice. The campground across the street looked pretty good too. The loop from Panimint to Lipencot around the Race track then Tea kettle junction to Hunter Mountain and back to Panamint is a full day trip.
A few pictures from last T-Day, the first two are the bottom and top of Lipencott Mine Road
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a171/Rusty_clt/DV_Thanksgiving/DSCN0432.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a171/Rusty_clt/DV_Thanksgiving/DSCN0434.jpg

Heading into Titus Canyon
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a171/Rusty_clt/DV_Thanksgiving/DSCN0468.jpg

Can you say slot canyon?
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a171/Rusty_clt/DV_Thanksgiving/DSCN0482.jpg

Lunch on the Gypsum cliff road
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a171/Rusty_clt/DV_Thanksgiving/DSCN0491.jpg

I love this picture, that is north of Las Vegas looking toward the end of the Spring Mountains. My HS stomping grounds.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a171/Rusty_clt/DV_Thanksgiving/DSCN0494.jpg

[rusty_tlc]

I was just there again last month, this time in Saline Valley. :D

[Philistine]

Update? Will this be happening Thanksgiving weekend?

[Air Sierra]

Update? Will this be happening Thanksgiving weekend?

Yes it will still happen just trying to figure out when your leaving and were to camp and what to see.

[rusty_tlc]

Yes it will still happen just trying to figure out when your leaving and were to camp and what to see.
We camped at Panamint Springs Resort this weekend. Not my favorite kind of camping but better than staying home. Hot showers were a bonus. There are a ton of trails in the Panamint Valley. We really want to get back down there with the FJ40 some time. If you pick Panamint bring gas, the station there was still at $4.35.

Since we were solo we just took a day trip up Wildrose Canyon to Mahogany Flats campground. There are three campgrounds in that area; Wilderose, Thorndike, and Mahogany flats. Mahogany Flats is at 8100' and has great views of the Bad Water area of Death Valley. It might be a bit cold at Thanksgiving. Thorndike is up in the Pinion pines, I didn't notice the elevation, it is a very sheltered camp. Wildrose is pretty low but very exposed, with windchill it might actually be colder than Thorndike.

On the North end of the valley is Tamerack Springs, we have camped there many times. Lots of stuff to explore in the area including the Race Track.

Where ever you go I would suggest you pick up a copy of Mitchel's Guide to Death Valley if you don't already own it.

[Air Sierra]

So far we are thinking about heading into Death Valley Nov26 evening and staying till the 30th.
This could change to heading into Death Valley the 28th-30 due to problems with shared holiday with my wife son and her ex.

Do think we are going to do Major off road mostly exploring.Is RaceTrack and different tourist parts of the Valley.

[Air Sierra]

Forgot got to add I think we will be camping at Furnace Creek

http://www.nps.gov/deva/planyourvisit/camping.htm


http://www.nps.gov/deva/

[Air Sierra]

Ok So it looks like we are going to go on the trip on the Friday the Nov 28th due to getting our son back from his dad.
Then we will come back late Sunday Nov 30th

We will be tent camping at Furnace creek, I guess its busy during this time so if you going we need to make reservation for camping spots.

My mom is going in her TJ too.

[Suckerpunch]

Ok So it looks like we are going to go on the trip on the Friday the Nov 28th due to getting our son back from his dad.
Then we will come back late Sunday Nov 30th

We will be tent camping at Furnace creek, I guess its busy during this time so if you going we need to make reservation for camping spots.

My mom is going in her TJ too.

OH, SNAP! I know that was lame. Let me talk to Jess. cross my fingers. What kind of budget am I looking at? miles for fuel, camping fees, ext....?:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Air Sierra]

OH, SNAP! I know that was lame. Let me talk to Jess. cross my fingers. What kind of budget am I looking at? miles for fuel, camping fees, ext....?:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

camping fees are $15-18 per night but we can fit more then one rig in a camp spot.

Figure 300 miles down plus 300 back and 100-200 miles per day depending were we go for fuel and remember fuel is $$$ there to I would bring (2) 5 gallons can if you go.
There is a small store right there with food and a bar and place to eat . plus its $20 to get into the park for 7 days.

[Philistine]

Map:

[Philistine]

If you want to make reservations: http://www.recreation.gov/camping/Furnace_Creek_Ca/r/campgroundDetails.do?contractCode=NRSO&parkId=70978&topTabIndex=CampingSpot

EDIT: Looking at the site list I don't see any open sites on the 28th. Looks fully booked. GL guys!

[Air Sierra]

If you want to make reservations: http://www.recreation.gov/camping/Furnace_Creek_Ca/r/campgroundDetails.do?contractCode=NRSO&parkId=70978&topTabIndex=CampingSpot

EDIT: Looking at the site list I don't see any open sites on the 28th. Looks fully booked. GL guys!

Damn there was this morning!!!!!!!1

Its ok we can still tent camp just not in a camp ground...we are still going here:thumbsup:

[Suckerpunch]

OK, so im talking to the wife about going down since we can still do thanksgiving with the family. What we are trying to figure out is how to go. Ideally we would like to take the dogs, but with me, her, the baby, and camping gear, its not possible.

she said it would be fine if we took the 4-runner, but that kinda defeats the purpose. Thinking about towing the jeep now. seems a little over kill?

[Air Sierra]

OK, so im talking to the wife about going down since we can still do thanksgiving with the family. What we are trying to figure out is how to go. Ideally we would like to take the dogs, but with me, her, the baby, and camping gear, its not possible.

she said it would be fine if we took the 4-runner, but that kinda defeats the purpose. Thinking about towing the jeep now. seems a little over kill?

4runner would be fine too..or tie the dogs down on the top and hood or buy a killer dog like mine..:D

[Suckerpunch]

4runner would be fine too..or tie the dogs down on the top and hood or buy a killer dog like mine..:D

well the good news is if we forget dog food they can still eat...:wave:

[Suckerpunch]

me taking the runner is like you taking the ford. what do you say?:nono:

[Air Sierra]

me taking the runner is like you taking the ford. what do you say?:nono:

smart man!:thumbsup: go and buy that trailer on here..for 400.00 or a harbor freight one.

[Suckerpunch]

smart man!:thumbsup: go and buy that trailer on here..for 400.00 or a harbor freight one.

It must be sold. I was second in line and never heard anything.

Yes, a trailer would solve half the problem. I could find a dog sitter and solve the other half.

Ill work on something. I really want to go.

how will you camp? tent? worried about the baby getting cold? I need input to help with Logan.:scratch:

[Air Sierra]

It must be sold. I was second in line and never heard anything.

Yes, a trailer would solve half the problem. I could find a dog sitter and solve the other half.

Ill work on something. I really want to go.

how will you camp? tent? worried about the baby getting cold? I need input to help with Logan.:scratch:

Tent for us with good blankets we have a camp lantern we leave on to help with heat..remember it will not be as cold as hear,,

[Suckerpunch]

besides mom. Has anyone else made a commitment to go?

[Air Sierra]

besides mom. Has anyone else made a commitment to go?

no one so if you can't go it's all good, we are still going...:thumbsup:

[Suckerpunch]

no one so if you can't go it's all good, we are still going...:thumbsup:


You know I want to go bad, If we can get the wives together soon selling it to Jess would be a lot easier. I think they would hit it off great. Ill know in a week or so. Most of this is pending on work, but today I got 3 hot leads.

[Vic R]

http://www.nps.gov/deva/planyourvisit/upload/Backcountry%20Roads-2.pdf

Here is a nice litte summary of the trails inside the park. I think this is a new publication - at least I didn't find it last time I was on the NPS site. (presented by Jeep - nice touch)

We are going to go down on Thanksgiving and come back on the next Tuesday. If there is a day run suitable for a stocker I'd love to tag along.

-Vic

[XXXXXXX]

I think I can go, the day after Thanksgiving. My problem, things can change in a day.
I would take my dog but afraid Chris's would pick on her.

[Air Sierra]

I think I can go, the day after Thanksgiving. My problem, things can change in a day.
I would take my dog but afraid Chris's would pick on her.

Have you seen my...I mean my wifes dog...........:D

[rusty_tlc]

Damn there was this morning!!!!!!!1

Its ok we can still tent camp just not in a camp ground...we are still going here:thumbsup:

Remember this is a National Park, camping is restricted to designated sites. IIRC the fine for camping in outside designated sites is fairly stiff. And there are a lot of rangers.
There is a privative camp just past the Race Track that is almost always empty. It is at the top of the Lipencott mine road, which is bonus.

Tamarack campground on the north end of the valley almost always has sites. It is close to Scotty's Castle, Ubhebe Crater, and the race Track.

Sunset campground, across from Furnace Creek, is the worst camp ground evar. May as well camp in the parking lot at Walmart. Stove pipe Wells is about the same.

BTW The cheapest gas is always at Stovepipe Wells. I found out last week from the manager of the Panamint Springs Gas station that they get subsidized.

[rusty_tlc]

Have you seen my...I mean my wifes dog...........:D

What kind of dog do you, I mean does your wife have?

I have a Poodle it can't be any worse than that. :D

[Suckerpunch]

I think I can go, the day after Thanksgiving. My problem, things can change in a day.
I would take my dog but afraid Chris's would pick on her.

what kind of dog?

[Suckerpunch]

if i go, these are the mutts im taking

[SaturnICL]

Looks like he's happy to see you:eek: :barf:

[rusty_tlc]

if i go, these are the mutts im taking

His lipstick is out, I'm just saying.

This s Jake,
Before Dr Snip:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a171/Rusty_clt/Stuff/Dscn1707.jpg



And after, looking for his balls;
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a171/Rusty_clt/Jake/DSCN0989.jpg



Just to stay on topic here he is last week in Death valley,
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a171/Rusty_clt/DV_10_25_08/DSCN1007.jpg

[Philistine]

His lipstick is out, I'm just saying.

This s Jake,
Before Dr Snip:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a171/Rusty_clt/Stuff/Dscn1707.jpg



And after, looking for his balls;
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a171/Rusty_clt/Jake/DSCN0989.jpg


Hahaha! Thanks I needed that! :chuckle:

[Suckerpunch]

:thumbsup:Looks like he's happy to see you:eek: :barf:


yeah, hes a happy boy. i told him were trying to go on this trip.
:thumbsup:

[Air Sierra]

Remember this is a National Park, camping is restricted to designated sites. IIRC the fine for camping in outside designated sites is fairly stiff. And there are a lot of rangers.
There is a privative camp just past the Race Track that is almost always empty. It is at the top of the Lipencott mine road, which is bonus.

Tamarack campground on the north end of the valley almost always has sites. It is close to Scotty's Castle, Ubhebe Crater, and the race Track.

Sunset campground, across from Furnace Creek, is the worst camp ground evar. May as well camp in the parking lot at Walmart. Stove pipe Wells is about the same.

BTW The cheapest gas is always at Stovepipe Wells. I found out last week from the manager of the Panamint Springs Gas station that they get subsidized.
Where is backcountry camping allowed?

* More than two miles away from any developed area, paved road, or "day use only" area.
* Camp only in previously disturbed areas and park your vehicle close to the roadway to minimize impact.

Where is backcountry camping NOT allowed?

Camping is NOT allowed on the valley floor from Ashford Mill in the south to 2 miles north of Stovepipe Wells.

Backcountry campsites must be more than 100 yards from any water source to protect these fragile areas for wildlife use.

Camping is NOT allowed on the following "day use only" dirt roads:

* Titus Canyon Road
* Mosaic Canyon Road
* West Side Road
* Wildrose Road
* Skidoo Road
* Aguereberry Point Road
* Cottonwood Canyon Road (first 8 miles only)
* Racetrack Road (from Teakettle Junction to Homestake Dry Camp)

Camping is NOT allowed at the following historic mining areas:

* Keane Wonder Mine
* Lost Burro Mine
* Ubehebe Lead Mine
* Camping should be avoided near all mining areas for personal safety.

If in doubt whether an area is open to camping please check at the nearest Ranger Station or the Furnace Creek Visitor Center.

Free voluntary permits for backcountry camping may be obtained at the visitor center or any ranger station. Solo hikers may want to provide additional information about plans and emergency contacts.

Overnight group size is limited to 15 people and no more than 6 vehicles. Larger groups will need to split up and camp at least 1 mile apart.

Campfires are prohibited, except in fire pits in developed campgrounds. Gathering wood is unlawful and burning of wood is not allowed in the backcountry. Campstoves and barbeque grills are allowed. Charcoal ashes must be packed out.

Valuable Backcountry Suggestions

Water
Since many springs may be dry or contaminated, plan to carry your own water or stash it ahead of time. During hot spring, summer and fall months, one gallon of water or more per person per day is needed. Heat and very low humidity create extreme dehydration potential during summer. We do not suggest low elevation hiking in Death Valley National Park between May and October.

Hazards
In winter, the higher elevations are cold enough that snow and ice conditions may require special safety equipment. Do not enter mine shafts, tunnels, or buildings. Watch for rattlesnakes, especially near old structures and vegetated areas near water. Do not camp in dry washes or drainages due to potential flash flood danger.

Backpacking
Death Valley National Park has few maintained trails and no established campsites in the wilderness. Since most hiking here is cross-country, it is important to hike on areas where your footsteps will have the least impact. Trampling of vegetation, fragile soil crusts, aquatic habitats and animal burrows should be avoided.

Maps
Detailed maps are necessary for many hikes in Death Valley National Park. Topographic maps are available online, at the Furnace Creek Visitor Center or by phone from the Death Valley Natural History Association (760) 786-2146.

Backcountry Ethics - Walking softly in the Desert

The desert is as fragile as any other natural area. Here are some tips that can help you be an ethical hiker and camper.

Learn about the region before you go
Talk to a ranger or read publications before your trip. When you familiarize yourself with a certain area, you will know what equipment you need for a safe trip and to leave the area as pristine as you found it.

Walk on durable surfaces
Since most hiking in Death Valley National Park is cross-country, it's important to hike on areas where your footsteps will have the least impact. Trampling of vegetation, fragile soil crusts, and animal burrows should be avoided. Walking in canyons with flowing water can have damaging effects on riparian habitats. Avoid walking in the water if possible. If there is an established trail, stay on it. Other low impact areas include desert pavement and dry, gravelly washes. When hiking in large groups cross-country, disperse into smaller groups of 3 or 4 and do not walk single file as this creates trails that can last for years.

Choose resistant campsites
Avoid areas with organic ground cover. Instead, choose areas on rock, sand or gravel. Cooking areas should be located away from sleeping areas. This "spreading out" will reduce impact in a concentrated area. Disperse large groups to reduce impacts.

Human waste disposal
To prevent pollution of water or spread of disease, you must dispose of solid waste properly. Dig a "cat-hole" with a small trowel 4-6 inches deep and at least 200 yards from any water source or campsite. After use, the cat-hole should be covered with soil and disguised with natural material.
The more popular backcountry use becomes, the more important backcountry ethics become.

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Death Valley Map
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more...
Backcountry Roads Map
Backcountry Roads Map
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more...

[Air Sierra]

link to backcountry camping

http://www.nps.gov/deva/planyourvisit/upload/Backcountry%20Roads-2.pdf

[rusty_tlc]

Where is backcountry camping allowed?

* More than two miles away from any developed area, paved road, or "day use only" area.
* Camp only in previously disturbed areas and park your vehicle close to the roadway to minimize impact.

Where is backcountry camping NOT allowed?

Camping is NOT allowed on the valley floor from Ashford Mill in the south to 2 miles north of Stovepipe Wells.

Backcountry campsites must be more than 100 yards from any water source to protect these fragile areas for wildlife use.

Camping is NOT allowed on the following "day use only" dirt roads:

* Titus Canyon Road
* Mosaic Canyon Road
* West Side Road
* Wildrose Road
* Skidoo Road
* Aguereberry Point Road
* Cottonwood Canyon Road (first 8 miles only)
* Racetrack Road (from Teakettle Junction to Homestake Dry Camp)

Camping is NOT allowed at the following historic mining areas:

* Keane Wonder Mine
* Lost Burro Mine
* Ubehebe Lead Mine
* Camping should be avoided near all mining areas for personal safety.

If in doubt whether an area is open to camping please check at the nearest Ranger Station or the Furnace Creek Visitor Center.

Free voluntary permits for backcountry camping may be obtained at the visitor center or any ranger station. Solo hikers may want to provide additional information about plans and emergency contacts.

Overnight group size is limited to 15 people and no more than 6 vehicles. Larger groups will need to split up and camp at least 1 mile apart.

Campfires are prohibited, except in fire pits in developed campgrounds. Gathering wood is unlawful and burning of wood is not allowed in the backcountry. Campstoves and barbeque grills are allowed. Charcoal ashes must be packed out.

Valuable Backcountry Suggestions

Water
Since many springs may be dry or contaminated, plan to carry your own water or stash it ahead of time. During hot spring, summer and fall months, one gallon of water or more per person per day is needed. Heat and very low humidity create extreme dehydration potential during summer. We do not suggest low elevation hiking in Death Valley National Park between May and October.

Hazards
In winter, the higher elevations are cold enough that snow and ice conditions may require special safety equipment. Do not enter mine shafts, tunnels, or buildings. Watch for rattlesnakes, especially near old structures and vegetated areas near water. Do not camp in dry washes or drainages due to potential flash flood danger.

Backpacking
Death Valley National Park has few maintained trails and no established campsites in the wilderness. Since most hiking here is cross-country, it is important to hike on areas where your footsteps will have the least impact. Trampling of vegetation, fragile soil crusts, aquatic habitats and animal burrows should be avoided.

Maps
Detailed maps are necessary for many hikes in Death Valley National Park. Topographic maps are available online, at the Furnace Creek Visitor Center or by phone from the Death Valley Natural History Association (760) 786-2146.

Backcountry Ethics - Walking softly in the Desert

The desert is as fragile as any other natural area. Here are some tips that can help you be an ethical hiker and camper.

Learn about the region before you go
Talk to a ranger or read publications before your trip. When you familiarize yourself with a certain area, you will know what equipment you need for a safe trip and to leave the area as pristine as you found it.

Walk on durable surfaces
Since most hiking in Death Valley National Park is cross-country, it's important to hike on areas where your footsteps will have the least impact. Trampling of vegetation, fragile soil crusts, and animal burrows should be avoided. Walking in canyons with flowing water can have damaging effects on riparian habitats. Avoid walking in the water if possible. If there is an established trail, stay on it. Other low impact areas include desert pavement and dry, gravelly washes. When hiking in large groups cross-country, disperse into smaller groups of 3 or 4 and do not walk single file as this creates trails that can last for years.

Choose resistant campsites
Avoid areas with organic ground cover. Instead, choose areas on rock, sand or gravel. Cooking areas should be located away from sleeping areas. This "spreading out" will reduce impact in a concentrated area. Disperse large groups to reduce impacts.

Human waste disposal
To prevent pollution of water or spread of disease, you must dispose of solid waste properly. Dig a "cat-hole" with a small trowel 4-6 inches deep and at least 200 yards from any water source or campsite. After use, the cat-hole should be covered with soil and disguised with natural material.
The more popular backcountry use becomes, the more important backcountry ethics become.

Death Valley Map
Death Valley Map
Color Resizeable Map (1.25mb PDF)
more...
Backcountry Roads Map
Backcountry Roads Map
Color Resizeable Map (7.52mb PDF)
more...

Thanks thats good info. A couple of areas I thought were off limits are back on my list. The Josha forest on the S Saline Valley road comes to mind.

There is also a really nice spot on the S Saline Valley road just past the Hunter Mountain tun off that I'd like to camp at.

[Air Sierra]

Here is my one of our three dogs this is my wife's of course..

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/airsierra/Picture048.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/airsierra/DSCN3155.jpg

This is were he like to sit on road trips..

.http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/airsierra/DSCN3303.jpg

[Air Sierra]

Thanks thats good info. A couple of areas I thought were off limits are back on my list. The Josha forest on the S Saline Valley road comes to mind.

There is also a really nice spot on the S Saline Valley road just past the Hunter Mountain tun off that I'd like to camp at.

I need to start writing this down and plan were to camp on which night....we just stayed in Beatty last time..

[rusty_tlc]

.....This is were he like to sit on road trips..

.http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/airsierra/DSCN3303.jpg

Amazing, Jake likes to do the same thing.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a171/Rusty_clt/DV_10_25_08/DSCN1036.jpg

I think my poodles head is as big as you dog. :eek:

[Air Sierra]

I think my poodles head is as big as you dog. :eek:

ITS MY WIFE'S DOG!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D

We have 2 big dog one is about 90 pounds.

[rusty_tlc]

I need to start writing this down and plan were to camp on which night....we just stayed in Beatty last time..
We may be down there around the same time, unless we go someplace else:D

We almost never plan.

[rusty_tlc]

ITS MY WIFE'S DOG!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D

We have 2 big dog one is about 90 pounds.
Okay whatever you say.:rolleyes:

[WILLD420]

So have you guys set a date? I got lost in all the dog pics and the rules and regs for where, when and how high they want you to jump to go see the place...

[Air Sierra]

So have you guys set a date? I got lost in all the dog pics and the rules and regs for where, when and how high they want you to jump to go see the place...

Unless things change due to custody dates on my wife's end with our son. We will be leaving early Friday Morning Nov 27th threw Sunday 29th or even Monday 30th.

It kind of depends on who is going??? If people are committed I would like to have a Pizza one night and figure out camping spot's and thing's and sight's to see..

[Philistine]

I would like to have Pizza on night and set up camp spot s and thing and place to see..

"Pizza on night"

"set up camp spot s and thing"

"place to see"

English please. You've got to lay off drinking and posting from the phone.

[Air Sierra]

"Pizza on night"

"set up camp spot s and thing"

"place to see"

English please. You've got to lay off drinking and posting from the phone.

Drinking..........not tonight I have to work in the morning. Cell Phone....Yes damn buttons are to small..........fixed too.

[89jeepcpl]

Here is my one of our three dogs this is my wife's of course..

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/airsierra/Picture048.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/airsierra/DSCN3155.jpg

This is were he like to sit on road trips..

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My dog is a little hungry, needs a little snack. :nervous:

[WILLD420]

My dog wouldn't eat it, but might sit on it since he's old and tends to plop down without looking where he's aiming..

I'd love to go, but we have plans with the In-Laws already..

[89jeepcpl]

Same here we are having family that week, we can live thru chris. :thumbsup::D

[Air Sierra]

Same here we are having family that week, we can live thru chris. :thumbsup::D

Ya well I lost some of mine so I'm off to find new things to do.....

[89jeepcpl]

Ya well I lost some of mine so I'm off to find new things to do.....

Not to de-rail your thread but we are the same way, my wife lost her father,

her mother, & her brother in the same year. I have my parents, grandma, & one brother.

I dread the day I lose my dad..

[Suckerpunch]

:pissed: Im out! Jessica has to work on Friday and Saturday. :(

[Air Sierra]

:pissed: Im out! Jessica has to work on Friday and Saturday. :(

" Whipped" JJ there will be a next time....

[B-spec]

This weekend the Death Valley 49ers are out here and all the campgrounds are packed.. There are plenty of places to camp in the back country though.

Panamint Valley days is going on in Panamint Valley where I will most likely be at.. If anyone is coming down let me know and we can meet up..

Or did this turn into the poodle thread???:eek:


:gapteeth:

[vegas91xj]

every year in the beginning of november death valley has an event called the encampment. it is an awesome experience they have a resident explorer/ off roader named dave hefner who sets up a run every year on a newly found trail. i have been going to death valley in november every year since i was born, if you have any questions on trails or anything send me a pm if i cant answer my dad who has been wheelin there since the 70s can. i love that place i recommend butte canyon and echoe canyon easy trails but awesome scenery, the ranger station should have info on those runs. if you take butte canyon past geoligist cabin it turns into guller wash that will take you the cabin(ranch) that charles manson was captured at, the bus that is parked at barker ranch is not mansons. It is a very interesting run i recommend it to anyone with mildly modified 4x4 or a good driver in a stock 4x4

[vegas91xj]

i forgot to mention that if you do the butte canyon or striped butte trail there are three cabins that are open to the public if you want to stay in them or camp out side of them they just ask that you pick up after your self. if you come the bad water side the settlement you pass is a talc mine that is not open for camping go about 5 more miles and you will hit geologist cabin that is up a hill on the right if you dont like that one there is another about 3 more miles down the road that is alittle more spacious. and the third is barker ranch where i prefer not to stay due to the history.