Agreed
We are better than that
Agreed
We are better than that
A golf course is the willful and deliberate misuse of a perfectly good rifle range." - Jeff Cooper
I've seen so many racist remarks its rediculous. Not a big suprise, it just confirmed my theory that a large amount of people on this forum are racist. I dont see the reasoning behind editing and deleting these racist comments! Everyone in the WORLD should see what a bunch of morons still exist in our EQUAL country. These radical racists are the reason why we are now dealing with reverse discrimination, holding all of us back from equality.
Am I a racist, because I drive a RACE CAR?:scratch:
FAT PEOPLE ARE HARD TO KIDNAP!
lolOriginally Posted by 89jeepcpl
Equal country??? I dont know how where you've been, my friend, but this is not an equal country... When I work usually 6 days a week, pay my bills, pay my taxes, follow the laws, and try to stay out of everyone elses business (so they stay out of mine); there are those that claim racial prejudice and a deservance for special treatment for things that happened over a hundred and fifty years ago, things that they have never experienced personally, and practice the same racial discrimination they they themselves cry about; or those that come to this country illegally and hit up Welfare to support their exuberance of child-birthing, yet never bother to learn our language... Honestly, how are they my equal?
Your still young enough to be idealistic, I am as well about many things, but the honest truth is that there are many that I would be proud to stand next to, ie the honest, hard-working ppl. There are also many that I would rather see somewhere else. Its not racism, its realism.
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...n_flip_off.gif "So, can ya tell me what exactly does freedom mean, if I'm not free to be as twisted as I wanna be?"
Point well taken! There is still no excuse for one american to belittle another due to race, sex, etc.
Debating about racial inequality and reverse discrimination is one thing. But, to use blatant racial language to get a rise out of people is disrespectful and shows a lack of intelligence.
I have met many hard working folks from all sorts of backgrounds. We may have our personal and political disagreements but, I still respect them as equals when it comes to being an American.
"A parent's only as good as their dumbest kid. If one wins a Nobel Prize but the other gets robbed by a hooker, you failed."
x10I have been thouroughly disgusted by some of the comments made recently. There is no place in today's society for these views.
I concur on the remarks...I don't believe that's tolerated on any forum to which I belong.
train - It shows that you're 20 (so you're still young and hopefully learning), but please do some research...every society in the world has individuals that buck the evolutionary/ideological trend.
This country is not equal...never has and probably never will. If you want, I can send some items to research to learn more about present-day inequality.
I would hope you are still learning too. Clearly you have taken what I said too literally. I've dabbled in social sciences for 3 years now. You think I'm oblivious to the inequalities of our nation and the world. This is not true. The main idea of what I wrote was that there is no place for these people in a nation working so hard for equality, they are holding everyone back. Purely my opinion. I understand that generally social progress is slow for change. Although 50 years ago a black president was an unrealistic goal, now we are here. I do not welcome your attempts at belittling my intelligence. Your notion that I am unaware of such prevalent social problems is quite aggravating, however I will not digress into further arguements with you. On the other hand im always open to learn more so feel free to send me some information. Research sources are always an asset to me when writing my papers!
Well done
:applaud:
so is calling a fellow white guy a craka a racist comment?
I always have the ability to say something to offend someone somewhere.
It's people like you that make me look smart.
No, don't take it personally. I offend everyone, it's my gift.
Wow trainwreck...you've a lot to learn about electronic information exchange and people in general. The post was an attempt to provide information without cluttering the subject, but that response went a little overboard. Since I don't know your history, I left the wording open ended (some people wish to continue learning, whereas some do not).
In which portion of the post was it incorrectly assumed that you were labeled "oblivious?"
Again, where does it "belittle?"
I was serious about sending you some information to learn about inequality that exists in the USA (some of which are listed below).
Where in the Constitution does it state "...that there is no place for these people in a nation working so hard for equality..." because of their beliefs? What is great about our society is that people are free to believe whatever they choose, whether or not it is socially acceptable.
Is it member names that aroused the conclusion that "a large amount of people on this forum are racist?" Or was it the avatars? To assume that a large amount of forum members are racist based upon electronic postings is truly astounding.
Have you met the people that posted? Do you know their personal histories? How do you know that what they post is what they actually believe?
From this statement, people could insinuate that if they don't believe in your version of equality, that they're morons. Do you know the truly "equal" society? Communism (and I'm not talking about russian/chinese communism).
This country is not equal and here are some examples:
* affirmative action
* MBE (w/ respect to bidding)
* WBE (w/ respect to bidding)
* Black Causus / Hispanis Caucus (US Congress)
[PS - please send me a PM if necessary]
So my question is why is it bad for white Americans to be racist, but it's ok for African Americans to be?
Four white guys attack a black guy, and it's a hate crime. Four black guys attack a white guy, the white guy was obviously somewhere he shouldn't have been.
Black activists (Sharpton, Jackson) are openly racist, but Don Imus makes a comment well within FCC guidelines and he is now a racist?
Don't get me wrong, you can prove a point in a forum without racist comments, and that is Denis' right to ask that we refrain, but to post in the same thread that we are living in a equal country is bull****.
Now that a black man has achieved the highest office in the USA, you would think that would suggest racism is going away, and we are getting closer to an equal playing field, but from what I have seen on TV and YouTube, racism is actually getting worse... from both sides.
Just a thought.
- John
"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." - Robert A. Heinlein
Q. In which portion of the post was it incorrectly assumed that you were labeled "oblivious?"
A. "It shows that you're 20 (so you're still young and hopefully learning)"
-What exactly does my age have to do with the subject at hand?
Q. Again, where does it "belittle?"
A. "...but please do some research...every society in the world has individuals that buck the evolutionary/ideological trend...
"...If you want, I can send some items to research to learn more about present-day inequality...."
-You made an assumtion that I have not looked into these issues before. This was a result of your misinterpretation of my initial post. Sometimes electronic communication proves to be a detriment for expression.
Q. I was serious about sending you some information to learn about inequality that exists in the USA (some of which are listed below).
A. I understand that, im not in need of this information at this time. Thank you for the offer.
Q. "Where in the Constitution does it state "...that there is no place for these people in a nation working so hard for equality..." because of their beliefs? What is great about our society is that people are free to believe whatever they choose, whether or not it is socially acceptable."
A. Good point, it doesn't state that, this is the reason why our written rights are left open for interpretation by the judicial branch of the United States. I also would like to point out that "...that there is no place for these people in a nation working so hard for equality..."is simply the exercise of my right to..."believe whatever I choose, whether or not it is socially acceptable..." You are exactly right sir.
Q. Is it member names that aroused the conclusion that "a large amount of people on this forum are racist?" Or was it the avatars? To assume that a large amount of forum members are racist based upon electronic postings is truly astounding.
A. Yes of course it was the member names and avatars...(j/k) The posts have been tampered with, either edited or deleted. I assure you there were disturbing remarks made directed at african americans. A slight number have made their racial bias known lately. I suppose it was wrong to exaggerate the approximate numbers. The truth is most of the deep seated racism is held on reserve in the mind.
Q. Have you met the people that posted? Do you know their personal histories? How do you know that what they post is what they actually believe?
A. I have only met a few people from reno4x4, all around great people. Clearly what people were posting was highly offensive, as 72Virginians made this thread a sticky. I suppose that we could all pretend the racial slurs were just joke, still doesn't justify the mentality. It's a fact that the color of your skin does not make you sub-human or inferior in any way.
Q. From this statement, people could insinuate that if they don't believe in your version of equality, that they're morons. Do you know the truly "equal" society? Communism (and I'm not talking about russian/chinese communism).
A. I have no version of equality. I see past race, sex, age, ethnicity, and religion. This is my view of the world. Im not looking for Utopia, just foreward progression of our country and world.
Q. This country is not equal and here are some examples:
* affirmative action
* MBE (w/ respect to bidding)
* WBE (w/ respect to bidding)
* Black Causus / Hispanis Caucus (US Congress)
A. Good examples, there are so many advantages for those who have fallen behind in society. As I previously mentioned we are now faced with problems of widespread reverse discrimination.
Right on, well this has been an interesting discussion.
Last edited by trainwreck; November 6th, 2008 at 06:24 PM.
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