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    I went, I'd say over 120 people. I will say anyone who is on the fence should of went, he made a lot of very good points. Did anyone from r4x4 other than me attend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BUILTnotBOUGHT View Post
    I went, I'd say over 120 people. I will say anyone who is on the fence should of went, he made a lot of very good points. Did anyone from r4x4 other than me attend?
    I wanted too but work was more important that something I could find out with a little research. I was hoping I'd hear more people made it though. Glad you made it down
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    the news said hillary is 2 points above trump for nv

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    http://2016election.procon.org/view....mary-chart.php

    Not sure how reliable, but sources quoted. After looking through, I would not vote for Johnson over trump anyway. Even if he had a chance at winning or upsetting anything.
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    Just curious, which issues were the deal breakers for you?


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    I hate everything about this election cycle. Johnson seems to be the least offensive to me but even some of his stances make me wince. Funny he believes human activity is the primary driver in global warming yet says we shouldn't move away from fossil fuels. Those two positions seem contradictory of one another. For the record I believe the climate has always changed and I'm not a greenie though am very pro nuclear. I know nothing of stein other then she's a statist but was interesting/surprising to see some of her pros/cons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    Just curious, which issues were the deal breakers for you?


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    Not Deal Breakers, but not a great reason to support him, especially since he isnt going to win anything. If I were going to throw away my vote to make a moral statement, he would not be the one I'd chose.


    He's against death penalty, Im for it.
    He's for Obama picking the new SC justice, Im not.
    He's for legalization of drugs, Im not really.(minor issue)
    He's against voters ID, id be for it.
    He's for funding Planned Parenthood, Im not.
    He's for illegal aliens being allowed to work. Johnson - "They're not taking jobs that U.S. citizens want."
    He's for funding to sanctuary cities.
    He's for Syrian refugees, just not as many as clinton, maybe?
    He believes the criminal justice system is unfair to blacks, I don't.
    He's for mandatory labeling for GMO foods. Im not.
    He's against businesses being able to refuse service for religious reasons. I'm for businesses being free to refuse service to anyone for anything. Its their business.

    This is all based on that site, but seems like he is not where I would want to put my vote. Not saying trump is perfect in anyway, everyone has faults, but I don't see Johnson being that great a candidate either.
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    One thing to consider when talking about the Libertarian position is that it often doesn't fit into the Republican v/s Democrat narrative on a given issue. Often it isn't yes or no, but that the government shouldn't have a say at all on the subject. Just because he disagrees with one side does NOT mean he agrees with the other. So please do your self a service and look at what is really being offered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beargrease View Post
    One thing to consider when talking about the Libertarian position is that it often doesn't fit into the Republican v/s Democrat narrative on a given issue. Often it isn't yes or no, but that the government shouldn't have a say at all on the subject. Just because he disagrees with one side does NOT mean he agrees with the other. So please do your self a service and look at what is really being offered.
    Yep, in in that vein you have to look at the whole ticket, Johnson's running mate Bill Weld makes even a remote consideration of Johnson a distant memory. He is a hard core anti- 2nd amendment kind of guy. That issue alone makes the Libertarian ticket poison to me.

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    I hear allot about Garry Johnson from my friends. They think its 'great' that he is moving up in the polls. They really hope he gets on the debate stage to give the people a 3rd party option. Let me shed my thoughts on what I feel is a manufactured construct and help people understand why I think this is 'really' happening. I'll drop a hint, its not why you think.
    First, they are going to manipulate the “media polling” to put Gary Johnson on the stage for the debates. It takes 15% in a major political poll to qualify for a presidential debate. Who controls the polls considered “major” and “political”…. why, the media of course.
    Putting Gary Johnson on the stage helps to undermine Donald Trump and presents the perfect optical framing for the “first woman presidential nominee“. Trump on one side, Johnson on the other and Hillary in the middle.
    This stage alignment also helps to obfuscate any attacks that Trump might launch. The questioner can frame the inquisition to pit Gary Johnson against Trump and Hillary Clinton against Trump.
    No, Jill Stein will not be put on the stage, because that DETRACTS from the optics and also represents a threat to the voting bloc that Clinton needs. Jill Stein will not be allowed to qualify. Remember, the media controls the statistics. So that’s the first guaranteed tripwire. Polling in September to put Johnson on the stage.
    Sorry. Garry will not win. His only roll in this is as a pawn to get Hillary into office.

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    I doubt he is a willing Hillary pawn, but that is the practical outcome. There are really only two people in this race. Trump and Hillary. Both are far from perfect. But Hillary Clinton is Satan incarnate, especially given her level of backing from George Soros. That makes Trump the only alternative. He won't be great (because he won't be allowed to be) be he will be far greater than Ms. Clinton. The establishment folks (on both sides of the aisle) hate Trump, because he is willing to upset the elitist's apple cart. That needs to happen.

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    Another issue with the Gary Johnson votes, is that promoting him up is going to drive people not to vote at all. (vote for a losing candidate, or vote for trump who has been targeted by all the corrupt media outlets) a lot of people will stay home for the presidential election. That mindset is also going to spill over into the voting season for house, senate, governors, state offices, etc. We could lose a lot of ground if that happens.
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    Lots of people will goto the ballots and select 'none of the above'

    Trump is a looney toon
    Clinton is a puppet



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    None of the above is a useless option due to it having no legal backing/teeth on the ballot. If 97% of our vote went to "none of the above," 2% to one candidate, 1% to the other candidate, the 2% candidate carries Nevada.
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    What if I said Trump and Hillary are both false flags to perpetuate this two party game they play and tbat they're in it together?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxamillion2345 View Post
    What if I said Trump and Hillary are both false flags to perpetuate this two party game they play and tbat they're in it together?
    I'd ask you if you believe in Chem trails too? I've met people like that, they are a special kind of person. Conspiracy theorists are always eager to jump on stuff like that lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfrey123 View Post
    None of the above is a useless option due to it having no legal backing/teeth on the ballot. If 97% of our vote went to "none of the above," 2% to one candidate, 1% to the other candidate, the 2% candidate carries Nevada.
    97% of 'none of the above' would be a game changer


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    Quote Originally Posted by WJeeper View Post
    I'd ask you if you believe in Chem trails too? I've met people like that, they are a special kind of person. Conspiracy theorists are always eager to jump on stuff like that lol.
    Keep telling yourself they're different.

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    I guess as long as it's for the good of the majority, big government is OK. http://digital.vpr.net/post/reversal...ry-vaccination
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis View Post
    I guess as long as it's for the good of the majority, big government is OK. http://digital.vpr.net/post/reversal...ry-vaccination
    I don't think they should be mandatory, but if the kid doesn't get them, then they don't get to go to public school. That's fair I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJRENO View Post
    Full retard

    “The five-shot rifle, that’s a standard military rifle; the problem is if you attach a clip to it so it can fire more shells and if you remove the pin so that it becomes an automatic weapon, and those are independent criminal offenses,” Mr. Weld said. “That is when they become, essentially, a weapon of mass destruction.”
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    The left has gone full Marxist/communist/socialist. The right is now nationalist and the libertarians are just the party of drug heads who are anti gun and apparently pro carbon tax. Worst. Election. Ever. Its definitely over, there are no longer any limited government voices/ideas even being discussed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desertninja775 View Post
    Worst. Election. Ever.
    No argument on that point, none what so ever.

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    Now this is funny - perfect irony

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