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    Washoe Wilderness Bill again!!!

    The Washoe County Land Conservation Bill is being revived

    This is the one that is to converts 67,000 acres of BLM land around the Truckee Meadows to development.

    AND TURNS 490,000 ACRES OF NORTHERN WASHOE COUNTY INTO WILDERNESS

    STAND UP FOR PUBLIC LAND ACCESS ---- GO TO THE MEETINGS --- BE HEARD --- PROTEST THE WILDERNESS DESIGNATIION

    Friday, December 8th from 1-4 p.m. and Friday, December 15, 2017 2-4 pm.

    at the Washoe County Commission Chambers in the Administration Complex (1001 E 9th Street, Reno)

    curious how they schedule these "public" meetings when most folks are still at work.

    See it here, follow the links to Friends of Nevada Wilderness for the maps.
    https://www.washoecounty.us/csd/plan...vation-act.php
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    I didn't realize it didn't go through the first time, seemed like a done deal. I went to the public comment meeting, they were going to rail road it through regardless of public input it felt like.

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    Ya, good thing we get restricted in places like Peavine. Saves the land for the bulldozers to play in. So tired of being one of the marginalized. You can either be a granola kumbyah singing treehugger or a dozer driving millionaire developer. If you're somewhere in the middle I guess you can just go piss up a rope.

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    Anybody got a map that makes sense? The "Friends" maps don't show roads or trails, I know, SHOCKING, that they would avoid showing that a wilderness area would destroy access to other things in any sort of pre-planned manner...
    Some people are as useful as a football bat.

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    The quality of the maps has always been my pet peeve, they show "cherry stem roads" on old USGS topo maps with magic marker lines for borders. If anyone here wanted to buy a chunk of that land we'd have to comply with strict rules of survey to locate every inch of border.

    Also the inconsistent method of the cherry stems. Many in Buffalo Hills not visible on Google Earth, Granite/Banjo clearly visible roads not cherry stems and man-made structures IN the wilderness area.

    What about all the hunter accesses? The threw roads for recreation/exploring? The historic and geographic sites that are only accessible by mechanized travel.

    The wilderness proponents just want to ban 90% of the people that currently use the land from doing so.

    Peavine is too close to the city now. The urban interface is going to be forced into controlled areas, we will just have to venture farther out........unless THEY get that closed too.
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    MAX... and all.
    A brief history.
    The bill came about from the County needing urban interface land from BLM for expansion (it's inevitable get over it.)
    The Harry Reid process required a wilderness component so FNW jumped on it and added Component #2 (the wilderness stuff).

    Exit Harry, and enter PLAN-HDC (Public Land Access Network - High Desert Coalition) consisting of:
    Jeannie Herman County Commissioner (this is her district)
    Nevada 4 Wheel Drive Association
    Hills Angels 4x4 Club
    Nevada Farm Bureau
    Nevada Cattlemen's Association
    Nevada Prospectors
    (and a few other that escape me now.)

    After several meeting the bill went to Washington WITHOUT Component #2 (the wilderness part) where it has been sitting in committee ever since. We thought we had won.

    Recent communication from the County has been email and now meeting as posted above. It is RUMORED that it is Commissioner Lucey that is pushing the wilderness revival.

    WILLD420 - the FNW maps are deliberately old and obscure so folks will be confused and give up trying to figure it out.

    It is my desire to push County GIS into paying a few million dollars defining the legal boundaries, something they probably won't do. even if the do I want "EXISTING ROADS and TRAILS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC". (i.e. extensive cherry stems.)

    I am pissed off about it because it is 1) a trade of 67,000 acres for half a million, is a BAD DEAL!! and 2) a lot of that is my favorite stompin-grounds.

    I really hate age discrimination !!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by efstop22 View Post
    MAX... and all.
    A brief history.
    The bill came about from the County needing urban interface land from BLM for expansion (it's inevitable get over it.)
    The Harry Reid process required a wilderness component so FNW jumped on it and added Component #2 (the wilderness stuff).

    Exit Harry, and enter PLAN-HDC (Public Land Access Network - High Desert Coalition) consisting of:
    Jeannie Herman County Commissioner (this is her district)
    Nevada 4 Wheel Drive Association
    Hills Angels 4x4 Club
    Nevada Farm Bureau
    Nevada Cattlemen's Association
    Nevada Prospectors
    (and a few other that escape me now.)

    After several meeting the bill went to Washington WITHOUT Component #2 (the wilderness part) where it has been sitting in committee ever since. We thought we had won.

    Recent communication from the County has been email and now meeting as posted above. It is RUMORED that it is Commissioner Lucey that is pushing the wilderness revival.

    WILLD420 - the FNW maps are deliberately old and obscure so folks will be confused and give up trying to figure it out.

    It is my desire to push County GIS into paying a few million dollars defining the legal boundaries, something they probably won't do. even if the do I want "EXISTING ROADS and TRAILS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC". (i.e. extensive cherry stems.)

    I am pissed off about it because it is 1) a trade of 67,000 acres for half a million, is a BAD DEAL!! and 2) a lot of that is my favorite stompin-grounds.

    I really hate age discrimination !!!!!
    I met and talked with Jeannie Herman, I liked her, seemed she was on our side.

    Thanks for keeping on top of this for us.

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    The latest update:

    Please see information below, we have launched our updated website, as well as scheduled public meetings for the end of April. I hope you find the information helpful. With the bill still being at a point of proposal and subject to changes, information will be updated as changes are made and we appreciate your time and any input you would like to share with us.

    A comprehensive federal lands bill is being proposed for Washoe County, which also goes by the name of Washoe County Economic Development and Conservation Act. The bill includes three distinct components:
    Economic Development for the Greater Reno/Sparks area
    Names, acreages and maps of federal lands in the northern portion of Washoe County that will be proposed for conservation and the release of the remaining wilderness study areas.
    The draft language that accompanies these maps.
    For more information or to view the updated proposed maps and bill draft language for you to review please visit our website listed below:
    https://www.washoecounty.us/csd/plan...vation-act.php
    Washoe County is asking for input on our updated proposal based on the input we have received up to now on the bill.
    We ask that you please come to our meetings listed below for information and discussion of the 2 components of the bill and so that we can hear from you and answer questions you may have.
    For the economic development portion pleas come Tuesday, April 24. 2018 from 5:30-7:30pm at the Convention Center.
    For the conservation portion please come Thursday, April 26, 2018 from 5:30-7:30pm at the Convention Center.
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    More land grab coming. In the link are maps of the intended action. If you disagree, pick a meeting and GO

    https://www.washoecounty.us/csd/plan...servation-act/
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    Quote Originally Posted by RARECJ8 View Post
    More land grab coming. In the link are maps of the intended action. If you disagree, pick a meeting and GO

    https://www.washoecounty.us/csd/plan...servation-act/
    Not sure what I am doing wrong, but none of those maps are visible (or clickable) when I visit that page.

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    A bunch of maps listed under conservati w ithe tag WSA
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