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    New Car Haulers - Experiences?

    I've been looking for a car hauler for a couple of months. Seems that everything used is a clapped out POS that needs the deck replaced, tires and has never had the bearings repacked. So i'm looking at new.

    Currently looking at a few different brands

    - PJ Trailers - 18' Equipment flat deck trailer. 9990 gvwr, all LED lights about 3k total out the door
    - Five Star - 18' Equipment flat deck trailer 10k gvwr just a hair over 3k out the door
    - Snake River 18' dovetail 7k gvwr

    10k is way over kill for what I'm planning on using this trailer for but for a couple hundred more to go from 7k to 10k seems worthwhile to me. It would be nice to be able to pull a full size diesel truck if needed without having to worry about overloading the trailer.

    What is everyone out there using? Good / Bad of what you have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloNDark View Post
    I've been looking for a car hauler for a couple of months. Seems that everything used is a clapped out POS that needs the deck replaced, tires and has never had the bearings repacked. So i'm looking at new.

    Currently looking at a few different brands

    - PJ Trailers - 18' Equipment flat deck trailer. 9990 gvwr, all LED lights about 3k total out the door
    - Five Star - 18' Equipment flat deck trailer 10k gvwr just a hair over 3k out the door
    - Snake River 18' dovetail 7k gvwr

    10k is way over kill for what I'm planning on using this trailer for but for a couple hundred more to go from 7k to 10k seems worthwhile to me. It would be nice to be able to pull a full size diesel truck if needed without having to worry about overloading the trailer.

    What is everyone out there using? Good / Bad of what you have?

    I definitely favor the 10k over the 7k. The 5000 pound axles just seem to hold up so much better than the 3500 pound. Do these trailers you are looking at have torsion or spring axles? I like the torsion axles.

    (I have an Alcom 20' dovetail 10k trailer - aluminum so a bit pricier than the steel ones you are looking out.)

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    I have looked at both torsion and spring. I would prefer torsion axles, I like they way the operate and feel towing better than spring. But i'm not against getting a leaf spring trailer if it checks all the other boxes.

    I thought about going aluminum but I just won't be using it enough to justify the cost difference on a new one. I just missed a smoking deal on a used one last week though. Bummer

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloNDark View Post
    I have looked at both torsion and spring. I would prefer torsion axles, I like they way the operate and feel towing better than spring. But i'm not against getting a leaf spring trailer if it checks all the other boxes.

    I thought about going aluminum but I just won't be using it enough to justify the cost difference on a new one. I just missed a smoking deal on a used one last week though. Bummer
    yeah I would probably be more willing to buy a used aluminum than a used steel - they just seem to hold up better. I got a good deal on this one from someone who was towing it behind their motorhome and decided they were just going to flat tow their toad instead.

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    Just something to think about, most 7k trailers are only good for 5500-6000lbs. Also Big Tex and PJ are the same company now I believe. One of the guys at work bought one of the Maxxd trailers and I would throw them in your list cause it looks like a great unit and has made a few trips to KOH loaded to the max with no issues http://www.maxxdtrailers.com/ I bought a Big Tex 14k trailer in the last year and have been pretty happy with it other than all the push in grease zerks for the suspension were fucked up and needed to be replaced. Other than that no issues it's been great solid built trailer and pulls a 10k lb skid steer no problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CashMoney View Post
    Just something to think about, most 7k trailers are only good for 5500-6000lbs. Also Big Tex and PJ are the same company now I believe. One of the guys at work bought one of the Maxxd trailers and I would throw them in your list cause it looks like a great unit and has made a few trips to KOH loaded to the max with no issues http://www.maxxdtrailers.com/ I bought a Big Tex 14k trailer in the last year and have been pretty happy with it other than all the push in grease zerks for the suspension were fucked up and needed to be replaced. Other than that no issues it's been great solid built trailer and pulls a 10k lb skid steer no problem.
    Thanks man. For the suggestion man. We just talked to a guy in Sac who sells the Maxxd trailers. Looks like great units and the price is decent. I will be going over for work anyway next week I’m going to stop and take a look


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    I got a PJ 20' and so far have been impressed. Tows well, the overall construction is good. The wiring is all sealed plug in harness. Paint is better than usual.
    The one complaint ( this probably applies to most trailer builders) is the tires are typical Chinese crap, one blew on the way back from Vegas, so if you plan on running 70 mph or so, budget for some American made tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    I got a PJ 20' and so far have been impressed. Tows well, the overall construction is good. The wiring is all sealed plug in harness. Paint is better than usual.
    The one complaint ( this probably applies to most trailer builders) is the tires are typical Chinese crap, one blew on the way back from Vegas, so if you plan on running 70 mph or so, budget for some American made tires.
    That’s funny. The first thing I did with our brand new travel trailer was take it to discount tire to replace the POS tires they put on it from the factory.

    Will make sure I do the same thing with this one too. Thanks!


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    I have a 20ft 10k Iron Panther trailer I purchased in Carson about 2 1/2 yrs ago. It is well built, taken a beating from us hauling things around our shop, and also ventured on a couple trips hauling a rig to moab and back. Solid trailer. Paid around $3k IIRC.
    Only issue Ive had with it has been tires(I bought 2 spares with the trailer and made my own mounts across the front bar as I know trailer tires typically suck).
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    I have a PJ 20ft 10k, great built quality, tows great, better built quality than big tex(especially paint finish), make sure you get dual breaks for use in NV
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloNDark View Post
    Thanks man. For the suggestion man. We just talked to a guy in Sac who sells the Maxxd trailers. Looks like great units and the price is decent. I will be going over for work anyway next week I’m going to stop and take a look


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    The guy here that bought the Maxxd is one of our heavy haul drivers and he's got some crawlers so he's got a good idea of when a trailers shit or not. If I didn't find a Big tex in town setup the way I wanted I probably would have bought a Maxxd trailer my self too. I can't remember what tires his had but mind came with decent tires. The wiring on the Big Tex I got was quality looking shit. I think it might have been a Grote harness but looking at it, the same stuff some of our high dollar custom trailers use that hold up well. Both of our trailers have quality name brand LED's too. I like his drive over fenders he got. I didn't want the extra weight on mine or I would have gotten them too.
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    A few of you guys said you had Dovetall trailers, Don't you find you drag the tail often? My trailer is flat and I drag the tail quite a bit getting in and out of the places I camp. In the dirt that is, not on the pavement.

    And I agree with the others, go 10,000 lb. Mine's a 7000 and with the Scout, tools, fuel, and sometimes a generator, its overloaded. There's some train tracks just north of Barstow that always give me the willies. When I'm loaded, Every time I hit them I think I'm going to bend or brake something. I know it bottoms out the suspension on the trailer really hard.

    Something else to consider, mine has stake pockets on the sides. This allowed me to build plywood sides for it. So it makes a great dump trailer also.
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    If you are going to haul 7K lbs, get the 10K trailer. Nobody ever says "I shoulda got the smaller axles..." If you find a used trailer, figure in the cost of new axles. I've only seen a handfull that didn't need at least one axle after a couple years of use.

    Spring for one that will fit a 235/85/16 tire. Then you can run a truck tire in load range F that will probably outlast your interest in pulling the trailer or you can pony up the coin for some 19.5's that will probably outlive your rig.
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    I have a 18' PJ with all steel deck & dovetail, I do drag from time to time, just bought new fenders, I need to swap in better axles, as I bent the originals 3500 axles back in '07, got cheap replacements that I've been cussing myself ever since a they just a touch to narrow so I have to runs spacers. I plan on heavier duty axles with all new springs. I would really like to upgrade to a bigger trailer like PJ's B6 (but a little longer maybe 22'?)
    I'd sell mine right now to fund buying a new trailer….
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    Quote Originally Posted by darren y View Post
    I have a 18' PJ with all steel deck & dovetail, I do drag from time to time, just bought new fenders, I need to swap in better axles, as I bent the originals 3500 axles back in '07, got cheap replacements that I've been cussing myself ever since a they just a touch to narrow so I have to runs spacers. I plan on heavier duty axles with all new springs. I would really like to upgrade to a bigger trailer like PJ's B6 (but a little longer maybe 22'?)
    I'd sell mine right now to fund buying a new trailer….
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    Quote Originally Posted by WILLD420 View Post
    If you are going to haul 7K lbs, get the 10K trailer. Nobody ever says "I shoulda got the smaller axles..." If you find a used trailer, figure in the cost of new axles. I've only seen a handfull that didn't need at least one axle after a couple years of use.

    Spring for one that will fit a 235/85/16 tire. Then you can run a truck tire in load range F that will probably outlast your interest in pulling the trailer or you can pony up the coin for some 19.5's that will probably outlive your rig.
    When my tires wear out im going to run 17.5" wheels and run 215/75R17.5. You'll never blow one out on a small trailer and they'll last a long time. We run them on our lowboy trailers at work too so I can steal some that are barely legal for a trailer. I'm sure people could find them used pretty cheap too since they are really popular
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    Dovetails the way to go IMO. I'd say go as heavy as you can afford and go 82" wide at least.

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