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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis View Post
    Too bad you weren't around during the revolutionary war, to tell those "founding fathers" that they were breaking the law and might get arrested and stuff..
    I think they knew that they could get arrested and probably be hanged. The difference is they accepted that as a possibility and didn't flinch, whining that they would give up if they could go home without Being arrested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUILTnotBOUGHT View Post
    If that's what you think really happened your a sheeple. Multiple videos paint a much different picture imo, considering shots were being fired at him and hitting him in the stomach before he "reached for a weapon" and was shot in the back of the head by Oregon state patrol hiding in the woods
    I guess that that there are videos that I haven't seen as the ones I have paint a different picture to me. And although we seem to be hijacking this thread (apologies to th op) perhaps you could start another thread with links to this opposing videos? My opinion might be changed as I only saw the ones from the police and the footage from the vehicle. I did not say anything about the protesters and/or their right to protest but the seeming unwillingness to accept the probable consequences to the route they chose. As I stated they took a course that they could have reasonably expected arrest. They then chose actions with another reasonably predictable ending. I am not saying I condone the results especially ending in the death of any person on either side. Hmmm, sheeple? Well if you knew me you would perhaps have a different opinion, but you do have a right to your opinion just like everyone else... One thing I am not is a lemming.

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    MOON ROCKS FACES CLOSURE

    Not sure of the details. If it's the Pyramid Lake tribe and they get their hands on the moonrocks, there is a good chance they will close it to the public one day. They closed some of the north and east beaches of pyramid over the last few years due to asshats spray painting the rocks, and everyone knows that eventually spray paint finds its way to the MRs.


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    Enjoy Moon Rocks while it's still available, because the countdown clock's ticking.

    This reminds me of Bill Paxton in Aliens...


    Which go me thinking - what're a US Senator's job requirements - http://www.heritage.org/constitution...s-for-senators

    And checking Nevada residency law - http://www.leg.state.nv.us/Division/.../Residency.pdf - does Reid legally maintain Nevada residency?

    June 3, 2016 Reid response:

    Thank you for contacting me about the Nevada Native Nations Land Act. I appreciate hearing from you.

    Before the Silver State was settled by pioneers, prospectors, and entrepreneurs, Nevada has always been home for generations of Washoe, Western Shoshone, and Paiute people. These first Nevadans have long been a voice for protecting our wild landscapes and enriching our state through their language and cultural heritage. I take the many obligations of the United States to tribal nations seriously. As Nevada’s senior senator and a former member of the Indian Affairs Committee, I have worked hard to help restore lands to Indian tribes in Nevada and throughout the country.

    As you may know, I reintroduced the Senate version of the Nevada Native Nations Land Act (S. 1436) on May 21, 2015. This bill, which is identical to the House version (H.R. 2733), would transfer more than 70,000 acres of federally managed land into trust for six Nevada tribes, including the Fort McDermitt Paiute and Shoshone Tribe, the Duck Valley Shoshone Paiute Tribe, the Summit Lake Paiute Tribe, the Reno-Sparks Indian Colony, the Pyramid Lake Paiute Tribe, and the Duckwater Shoshone Tribe. Land is lifeblood to Native Americans, and the lands that would be held in trust for the tribes would allow them to build housing for their members, preserve their cultural heritage and traditions, and provide opportunities for economic development. On April 15, 2016, the Senate passed S. 1436 by unanimous consent.

    I understand your concerns regarding this land transfer and its potential impact on public land that is enjoyed by Nevadans. I will continue to work with tribes and outdoor enthusiasts to best find solutions to land use questions. For instance, you may be interested to learn that I am working with the Reno-Sparks Indian Colony as well as other members of the Nevada congressional delegation to explore different options for preserving access to the Moon Rocks off-highway vehicle area from populated parts of Washoe County, including the possibility of a road easement for off-road vehicle enthusiasts through the new reservation boundaries. Please be assured that I will continue to promote sensible policies that enhance and protect the multi-use values of our public lands while fighting to uphold the United States’ unique trust responsibility to protect and support Indian tribes and Indian people.

    Again, thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts with me. I look forward to hearing from you in the near future.

    My best wishes to you.

    Sincerely,

    HARRY REID
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    Go fuck yourself Harry Reid, the Indians can go fuck themselves too. All I got out of that was blahblah your fucked, the Indians might give you some limited use for some questionable amount of time
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    'sensible' in DEM-speak = we'll do what we want, F the rest. When the REI rock climbing types got kicked off of Cave Rock the timer was started. Unless/until the OHV community literally cleans up its act, the fate of MR is sealed. Wonder what % of the drunk fools last w/e were locals v out of owners? The circus-like 'no rules' days may be doomed.
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    Supposedly the vote is tomorrow. Contact Reid and Amodei and let them know how you feel.
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    Finally received word from Mr. Amodei:

    July 28, 2016

    Thank you for contacting me with your concerns about my legislation, H.R. 2733, the Nevada Native Nations Lands Act. I appreciate hearing your thoughts on this bill.

    As you may know, the Nevada Native Nations Lands Act would allow federal land to be held in trust for six different tribes throughout Nevada. By carefully balancing the unique needs of our Nevada tribal nations with those of local ranchers, land owners, public lands recreationalists and businesses, this bill will allow Nevadans to chart brighter futures for their communities while preserving their cultural heritage and traditions.

    My approach to this and other public land transfer proposals in Nevada is that they are bottom-up, community-driven and undergo a transparent process. I believe that Nevadans should have a seat at the table when it comes to decisions about federal land use. The Nevada Native Nations Lands Act will allow for Nevada public land to be placed back into local control rather than a Washington-centric federal agency–empowering those who are best suited to make decisions surrounding economic development.

    I understand your concerns regarding the Reno-Sparks Indian Colony’s transfer and its misrepresented effect on Off Highway Vehicle (OHV) use in the Hungry Valley Recreation Area. Please be assured I have spoken with Chairman Melendez of the Reno-Sparks Indian Colony regarding his organization’s willingness to work with members of the Nevada OHV community to ensure access routes across federal land remain available for OHV enthusiasts.

    After 35 months of an open and transparent process, the American Motorcyclist Association (AMA) issued several legislative action alerts, beginning on April 27, 2016, opposing H.R. 2733 after its companion bill passed the Senate. Not only did they not have the courtesy to contact my office to discuss their concerns before sending the alert to every Member of Congress, but the alerts were inaccurate. It's even more troubling the AMA did all of this after endorsing the Nevada Native Nations Lands Act (H.R. 2455) that passed the House on December 1, 2014.

    To get the facts and review a letter I wrote in response to the AMA, please click here.

    To view supporting documents from Washoe County regarding this proposed land transfer, please click here.

    To view supporting documents from the Reno-Sparks Indian Colony corresponding to this issue and legislation, please click here.

    Finally, click here to view the full text of H.R. 2733 to learn more.

    Please rest assured as this legislation moves forward, I will keep your concerns in mind, and continue to support the principal of multi-use as well as respect all private property rights and leases under any proposed transfer of land.

    I appreciate the fact that you have taken the time to apprise me of your opinions and hope that you will contact me again should you have any further comments or concerns. If you would like additional information on my activities in the House, please visit my website, www.Amodei.house.gov or connect with me on facebook.com/MarkAmodeiNV2 and twitter.com/MarkAmodeiNV2.

    In closing, please know that I consider it a privilege to serve and represent you and your family in Congress.

    Sincerely,

    Mark E. Amodei
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    Seems like a little bit of good news yeah? Or am I being too optimistic in reading the 4th paragraph? Tried clicking the links but the work computers don't like them.

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    I hate to sound ignorant, but other than just a feel good measure to make it look like they're doing something nice for natives, why is this land being transferred? What are the native Americans going to do with it? Is there some sort of plan or is it just a land steal plain and simple?
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    Are there any updates on this or official maps? I have heard a few people mention that the whole Reno Spars Indian Colony area that was granted to them last year is now closed off for alllllllll usage. Anybody have details or corrections about this?

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    Don't know anything official but I go there most weekends and nothing is closed off that I know of...

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    Map is on reno sparks indian colony website

    It is vague but still they have alot more ground now..
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    Does anybody know where we can get a good full scale map of this to carry?

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    I saw on the news today that the Indian colony has backed off on limiting usage of the area. Sounds like it's still a no go for shooters, but wheeling and dirt bikes are okay without a permit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McNasty View Post
    I saw on the news today that the Indian colony has backed off on limiting usage of the area. Sounds like it's still a no go for shooters, but wheeling and dirt bikes are okay without a permit.
    This is good news. The shooting in this area was out of control anyway and needed to be addressed.

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